Organization Name
American Association of Port Authorities---Jean Godwin
American Great Lakes Ports Association---Steve Pfeiffer
American Maritime Congress---John Gaughan
American Pilots' Association---Paul Kirchner
American Trucking Associations---Bill Wanamaker
Association of Metropolitan Planning Organization---Mark Griffin
Boat Owners Assoc. of The U.S. (BOAT US)---Robert Nelson
Chamber of Shipping of America---Charles Kurz II
Conference of Minority Transportation Officials---Gwendolyn S. Harris-Gale
Inland Rivers, Ports and Terminals, Inc.---Jim McCarville
International Longshore and Warehouse Union---Peter Peyton
INTERTANKO---Jonathan Benner
Maritime Security Council---Kim Petersen
National Association of Regional Councils---Ron Achelpohl
National Association of Waterfront Employers---Patrick Hall
National Industrial Transportation League---David Updegraff
National Mining Association---Gary Dadisman
National Waterways Conference---Glenn Vanselow
North American Export Grain Assoc., Inc.--- Royce Wilken
Pacific Maritime Association---Bob Dockendorff
Passenger Vessel Association---Darrell Bryan
The Ocean Conservancy---Roger Rufe
U.S. Chamber of Commerce---Ashley Miller
U.S. Exporters Competitive Maritime Council---James Cook
World Shipping Council---Donald O'Hare
Due to scheduling conflicts beyond their control, MTSNAC Chair, Chuck Raymond, and Vice Chair, Frank Sims were unable to attend the meeting. Accordingly, MTSNAC Chair Chuck Raymond appointed MTSNAC members Jonathan Benner and Jim McCarville to act as Chair and Vice Chair respectively for the August 13-14, 2002 meeting of the MTSNAC. They graciously accepted this appointment.
Acting Chair, Jonathan Benner convened the meeting at 2:40 pm. He made introductory remarks noting that this would be an important meeting because of the issues that needed to be addressed. On behalf of Chuck Raymond and himself, he welcomed the new members to the Council. He noted the accomplishments of the MTSNAC over the past two years despite the major setback suffered as a result of the tragic events of September 11, 2001. In moving forward, he stated that the Council would be asked to discuss the SEA-21 proposal introduced at previous meetings.
The California Intermodal Transportation System Advisory Council was thanked for its gracious sponsorship of today's meeting.
The Acting Chair asked Council members to introduce themselves and the organizations they represent.
Maggie Blum offered some remarks on behalf of the Maritime Administration (“MARAD”), the MTSNAC sponsoring agency. She expressly welcomed the 10 new Council members and relayed the greeting of the Maritime Administrator, Captain Schubert. She indicated that Captain Schubert is looking forward to receiving reports from the Council. In addition, she remarked on accomplishments of the MTSNAC and MARAD’s eager anticipation of the SEA-21 report. She reiterated MARAD policy that views water as a solution to some of the nation’s transportation issues.
Raymond Barberesi, the Executive Director of the MTSNAC, was asked to give a presentation on the history of the MTSNAC and the highlights of the Council’s first two years and its governance procedures. Prior to doing so, he noted the contributions of the Council members but also recognized key government personnel who have assisted in the success of the Council. Those individuals were identified as: Maggie Blum, Joann Spittle, Richard Lolich and Keith Lesnick of MARAD; Jeff High and Margie Hegy of the Coast Guard; and Gary Magnuson of NOAA. This presentation will be posted on the MTSNAC website.
He also informed the Council of the three new MTSNAC Teams that have been created: Shipbuilding, Inland Waterway, and Short Sea Shipping also referred to as Coastwise Shipping. The Acting Chair informed MTSNAC members that they should provide their indication of Team interest to the sponsor.
The Acting Chair thanked Maggie Blum and Ray Barberesi for their remarks and support for the MTSNAC.
When the Council returned from break, the Acting Chair asked Ray Barberesi to make certain announcements regarding administrative matters. He did and he also acknowledged Kevin Krick the Special Assistant to the Maritime Administrator and thanked him for his valuable contributions.
Jean Godwin was asked to make this presentation on behalf of Team Leader Chuck Carroll who was unable to be present. She began by reviewing the process that the Team has gone through in assessing existing dedicated funding sources, existing potential funding sources and unmet MTS needs. This was introduced through a PowerPoint presentation that explained how a MTS funding mechanism could be created through the existing Harbor Maintenance Trust Fund, the existing Inland Waterways Trust Fund, a new dedicated SEA-21 Trust Fund and appropriately allocated funds from TEA-21 for intermodal connectors.
She further called the attention of the Council to a working draft of a document prepared by the Team and previously reviewed by the Council. It is intended that this paper will be submitted to the Secretary to explain this funding mechanism. She indicated that the paper needed certain organizational adjustments and indicated how that would be accomplished. She stressed the main theme of the paper, which is that the MTS adds value to the treasury, and only a fraction of those funds come back to the MTS. She clearly indicated that the paper suggests that such funding should come from existing revenue sources without the creation of new taxes. She acknowledged a slightly awkward situation in that the paper does not fully discuss specific MTS needs.
For the benefit of the new Council members, Jean explained that the MTSNAC has requested a Needs Based Assessment of the MTS from the Interagency Committee on the MTS (“ICMTS”), the federal counterpart of the MTSNAC. While in a perfect world we would have liked to submit the funding proposal concurrently or shortly after a needs based assessment was created, we must meet the Secretary’s deadline with the funding paper and we will have to wait for the needs based assessment. The paper addresses that issues and identifies certain well-recognized MTS needs.
A discussion of the paper ensued. Bob Nelson stated that a successful SEA-21 would require considerable political will, even with a dedicated funding source. The political will must be present to see that it is spent. Bill Wanamaker agreed and noted that what good is a trust fund unless the funds are spent. Paul Kirchner requested a drafting change to include the word safety and navigation. Charles Kurz also indicated that safety should be a key component of SEA-21.
Bill Wanamaker stated that the ATA supports the use of Highway Trust Fund money to improve intermodal connectors. He asked if other Highway Trust Fund monies were being looked at and Jean Godwin indicated that intermodal connectors were the only project that this group intended to seek Highway Trust Fund monies for.
Don O’Hare suggested certain revisions to the chart to clarify it. Those revisions were noted. James Cook asked about competing modes. Jean Godwin indicated that landside issues would be kept separate. A discussion ensued about the need for a needs based assessment.
Acting Chair, Jonathan Benner summarized the discussion as follows: the draft paper is what the Infrastructure Team is recommending for the principles of a funding mechanism. Jean Godwin indicated that the paper would be re-organized as described to the Council and subject to certain revisions as discussed. Jonathan Benner requested a discussion of any objections to the major principles set forth in the paper. There were none. The Acting Chair further noted that there is general consensus that there are readily identifiable unmet MTS needs that the paper refers to in a general way. While the needs element needs to be re-visited that can be done in the Council’s next submission to the Secretary.
Charles Kurz made a resolution that the full Council adopt the paper and authorize its submission to the Secretary. Pat Hall seconded the motion. Jonathan Benner suggested that the vote be postponed until the following day to allow new Council members more deliberation time.
At that point, the Acting Chair adjourned the meeting for the day and indicated that the meeting would reconvene the next day at 8:30 am.
Acting Chair, Jonathan Benner reconvened the meeting. He thanked the Pacific Maritime Association and Catalina Express for the previous night’s tour of the Ports of Los Angeles and Long Beach. He also announced that the public comment period would be held from 9:30 to 10:00 a.m. as announced in the Federal Register. Raymond Barberesi made administrative announcements about the Maersk facility tour planned for the late afternoon and the dinner. He also indicated that time on the agenda was provided for breakout sessions for the teams to meet. In addition, he invited John Gaughan representing the American Maritime Congress, a new MTSNAC member to introduce himself.
The Acting Chair requested a motion to approve the minutes from the May 13-14, 2002 meeting. Jean Godwin moved to approve the minutes and Gary Dadisman seconded the motion. The Acting Chair called for a discussion on the motion. Bob Dockendorff requested changes to the Awareness Team resolution contained within the minutes. However, it was suggested that the entire resolution come out of the minutes because the full text of that resolution was not presented at the meeting but provided after. It was suggested that the resolution be discussed during the Team reports. Jean Godwin then amended her motion to approve the minutes to indicate that the Awareness Team resolution should be removed and other typos should be corrected. Gary Dadisman seconded the amended motion and the minutes were approved.
Raymond Barberesi reported on the action items from last meeting. He indicated that the minutes from the October meeting with corrections are posted on the MTSNAC website. With regard to the Awareness Team resolution that was discussed in New Orleans, that resolution will be discussed and voted on at this meeting. The Human Resources Team requested that a link with the MTSNAC website and the Ship Operator’s Cooperative Program (“SOCP”) be created and that link should be operational shortly. He also reported that the recommendation of the Safety and Environment Team concerning the de-criminalization of certain marine accidents that was previously adopted by the full Council had been submitted to the Secretary. Lastly, he reported that the Security Team’s Container Security Report that was adopted by the full Council was also forwarded to the Secretary.
Jonathan Benner called upon Charles Kurz to reintroduce his resolution of the previous day concerning the adoption of the Infrastructure Team’s MTS funding paper. That resolution was stated as follows:
The MTSNAC having had the opportunity to review and comment on the SEA-21 funding program paper working draft dated August 2, 2002 introduced by the MTSNAC Infrastructure Team, adopts the principles espoused in the paper as a MTSNAC work product, subject to certain organizational and drafting issues discussed by the Council, with the intention that it be distributed to the Secretary of Transportation.
Pat Hall seconded the resolution. The floor was opened for discussion. Jean Godwin again explained the process that went into the creation of the paper and that the paper would be edited to reflect the wording changes requested by the Council. She further stated that the full Council had in fact reviewed this paper on two previous occasions and that it was prepared in response to a request from the Secretary. A discussion ensued and Steve Pfeiffer requested that mention of the Great Lakes be included in the paper. The resolution was put to a vote and all were in favor and none were opposed.
ICMTS Liaison Report
Jeff High the Chairman of the ICMTS Steering Committee was invited to give the ICMTS report. He reported the greeting of Admiral Pluta, the Chairman of the ICMTS, who is very interested in the work of the MTSNAC. A presentation of Certificates of Appreciation to the International Longshoremen’s Association, AFL-CIO and the United States Maritime Alliance, Limited was made for their generous sponsorship of last May’s MTS Exhibition Reception held in Washington, DC on National Maritime Day. He noted how successful the event was and how well attended by members of Congress, staffers and various agency personnel it was.
Jeff then turned his attention on the important role the Coast Guard has in the MTS and its continued resolve with regard to the project despite the likelihood that the Coast Guard will be moving over to the Office of Homeland Security. It was important that the Coast Guard document this position with regard its role in the MTS project before the transition takes place.
With regard to the work of the ICMTS, it is in that group’s work plan to create a meaningful SEA-21 proposal for the Secretary as well. They are also looking to create a model ports and best practices program. They are also advocating for full funding for the U.S. Customs Automated Commercial Environment program and to promote MTS awareness.
The issue of the needs assessment was discussed and Jeff indicated that the ICMTS needs MTSNAC help in procuring funding for the project. The Acting Chair requested that this discussion be tabled for later in the meeting due to the need to allow the public comment period to start on time.
Public Comment Period
Jim Haussener of the California Marine Affairs and Navigation Conference made a short presentation about the efforts of this group in seeking maritime infrastructure improvements in California.
Les Sutton of the Kirby Corporation spoke in favor of the Infrastructure Team paper as it reflects the Inland Waterways position.
ICMTS Liaison Report Cont.
Jeff High noted that the MTSNAC resolution requested an ICMTS study on unmet MTS needs. The Coast Guard has prepared a scope of work for the project and discussed this with the marine board. Funding for this study has become an issue. Charles Kurz made a resolution that stated as follows:
Recognizing the importance of identifying MTS user needs to the development of comprehensive SEA-21 legislation, MTSNAC previously passed a resolution asking the Secretary to direct the ICMTS to conduct an MTS needs assessment; and acknowledging that this assessment has not been initiated due to lack of funding; MTSNAC therefore requests that the Secretary provide funding, approximately $500,000, for ICMTS, under the Chairmanship of the Coast Guard, to conduct this very important MTS user needs study to provide credible foundation for any SEA-21 legislation.
Jim McCarville seconded and the Acting Chair called for a discussion. A discussion ensued. James Cook asked about the time frame. Jeff High indicated that would be determined by the availability of other studies that could be used. Jean Godwin supported the resolution and Mark Griffin suggested that local MTS groups be consulted. John Gaughan questioned whether the wording was strong enough and suggested the word identify be replaced with the word provide as it appears above. In summary, Jonathan Benner noted that this study would serve many purposes and that it must be done. A vote was called for and all were in favor and none opposed.
BREAK
The meeting reconvened and additional questions were asked of Jeff High. Paul Kirchner asked about MTSNAC continuing role after the submission of a paper and that we should promote MTS funding in anticipation of a SEA-21 initiative. Jeff High responded that SEA-21 will take some time and it will require a combined effort. While a SEA-21 initiative is not a given there are still unmet MTS needs that will need to be funded. Pat Hall offered the help of the council to the ICMTS.
Gulf Coast Initiatives—John Carnes, MARAD
John Carnes of MARAD gave a presentation entitled Rudders Meet the Roads—Compact Building for Intermodal Network Efficiency. This project is being advanced by the Gulf River Intermodal Partnership (“GRIP”). Mr. Carnes’ talk highlighted the need to involve all governmental sectors in an effort to utilize water transportation as an alternative to over-the-road transportation. Jim McCarville noted the presentation and indicated that the Inland Waterways Team would consider the recommendations made. Bill Wanamaker indicated that the trucking community would be receptive to such initiatives. Jonathan Benner thanked Mr. Carnes for this informative presentation.
California Marine and Intermodal Transportation System Advisory Council
Gil Hicks, Chairman of the California Marine and Intermodal Transportation System Advisory Council (“CALMITSAC”) delivered remarks on the efforts of the California regional MTS organizations. He noted that the membership of CALMITSAC includes a broad array of public and private stakeholders and noted its mission which is: “to foster development of a marine transportation system in California that is safe, secure, efficient, environmentally sound, and capable of expanding to meet the demands of the global economy.” The group has been in operation for a year and has organized into teams. He presented a list of estimated infrastructure needs for California ports and noted the significant contribution the ports of California provide for the local, state, national and world economies. Mr. Hicks ended his presentation with an appeal to the MTSNAC to assist it in obtaining a charter and funding from the U.S. Department of Transportation.
He noted that the organization’s participants are very generous with their time but there are certain activities involved with running such an organization that do require administrative support and funding. Jonathan Benner thanked Mr. Hicks for his presentation.
Regional MTS Development
Capt. Manny Aschemeyer the Executive Director of the Marine Exchange for LA/Long Beach made a brief presentation about the Maritime Information Service of North America (“MISNA”). MISNA is an association of maritime exchanges of North America. Some of the services MISNA provides include vessel monitoring, vessel traffic analysis and strategic partnerships. The Acting Chair thanked Capt. Aschemeyer for his presentation.
LUNCH BREAK
During the lunch break, the Council heard presentations for the Ports of Long Beach, Los Angeles and San Diego. In addition, Jeff High showed the ICMTS Awareness video for those interested.
Team Breakout Sessions
Meeting Reconvenes
Jonathan Benner reconvened the meeting and requested Team reports.
Research and Development—Jean Godwin for Bernie Groseclose
The Team did not make a report.
Security—Carol Lambos for Chuck Raymond
Carol Lambos reported on the activities of the Security Team on behalf of Team Leader, Chuck Raymond. As background for the Council she noted the past work of the Team that included two reports to the Secretary. One was an analysis of proposed seaport security legislation and the other was a container security report. She then turned to the current work of the team that includes a study of the issue of transporting empty containers. She indicated that the Team has drafted a paper that reflects a consensus during the last Team meeting but that this paper is not ready for full presentation to the Council at this meeting. She also indicated the Team will be studying additional security issues including the problem of appropriate communications with first responders in the event of a disaster.
Carol Lambos also mentioned for the information of the Council and the public that a Maritime Security Exposition would be held at the Jacob Javits Convention Center in New York City on September 18-19, 2002. Anyone interested could see her for more information.
Shipbuilding—Carol Lambos for Chuck Raymond
Carol Lambos reported that the Team is in its organizational phase and did not have the opportunity to meet. John Gaughan commented that he was pleased that the MTSNAC will have a Shipbuilding Team. He added that the United States needs to be involved in shipbuilding, operating, and in naval architecture. MTSNAC members interested in this Team are encouraged to indicate this interest to the sponsor.
Inland Waterways—Jim McCarville
Jim McCarville made a presentation on behalf of the newly formed Inland Waterways Team. The Team met and their meeting was well attended and the Team was working on a mission statement. He noted that the Team agrees with the principles espoused in the SEA-21 paper regarding spending down the Inland Waterways Trust Fund. However, there are unmet needs that are not addressed that concern ongoing operations and maintenance costs, security, documentation, dredging and technology. According to Jim, this will be a very busy team.
Short Sea Shipping/Coastal Shipping
This team did not have the opportunity to meet.
Human Resources—Paul Kirchner for Michael Watson
This team did not make a report.
Safety and Environment—Charles Kurz II
As a preliminary matter before his report, Charles Kurz offered the minutes from the Team’s July 31, 2002 meeting for adoption by the Council. Pat Hall seconded his motion and the minutes were adopted. He also mentioned a recruitment and retention meeting with the Coast Guard. With respect to the SEA-21 paper, he requested that certain issues be eliminated from the Safety and Environment proposal. Those concerned Annex b and public awareness. In addition, the public education issue should be moved to the Awareness proposal. His suggestions were noted.
Safety and Environment Team Resolutions
Charles Kurz introduced two resolutions. Resolution One stated as follows:
Whereas, MTSNAC recognizes that the success of any MTS initiative depends on senior level government officials’ commitment to working together to address MTS issues;
MTSNAC recognizes that the senior leadership of all the ICMTS agency departments has changed since the ICMTS MOU was signed; and
MTSNAC recognized that the Coast Guard, Customs, TSA and INS may become part of a new Department of Homeland Security;
Therefore, MTSNAC recommends to the Secretary that the ICMTS MOU be reaffirmed by the current senior leaders. MTSNAC further recommends that the reaffirmed MOU ensure continued Coast Guard Chairmanship of the ICMTS as well as ensure Customs, TSA and INS participation in the ICMTS.
Pat Hall seconded the resolution. The Acting Chair noted that the council has regular procedures for bringing resolutions. They normally have to be submitted in advance and cleared with the Chair. While ad hoc resolutions are generally to be avoided, he would permit these resolutions to go to the floor because they did not seem to be controversial. However, he clearly stated that this should not be a precedent. He then called for discussion on the resolution. A vote was taken and all were in favor and none were opposed.
Resolution Two stated as follows:
Whereas, MTSNAC recognizes that SEA-21 legislation and other potential new MTS funding devices are long-term projects,
Therefore, MTSNAC recommends that ICMTS identify immediate actions that can be taken to address MTS issues that do not require new legislation or funding mechanisms and be encouraged to engage in these collaborative efforts.
Jim McCarville seconded the resolution and a discussion was called for. A vote was taken and all were in favor and none were opposed. The Acting Chair thanked the Safety and Environment Team for their hard work.
Awareness—Bob Dockendorff for Joe Miniace
Bob Dockendorff offered the minutes of the Team’s May 13, 2002 meeting. Jean Godwin seconded with the condition that the text of the resolution be removed from the minutes. Bob Dockendorff agreed to amend his motion to reflect Jean Godwin’s suggestion and the minutes were approved.
Bob Dockendorff then offered a resolution from the Awareness Team that stated as follows:
Whereas: Waterborne freight traffic and other MTS operations are projected to double or even triple over the next twenty years. Efficient, safe, and environmentally responsible freight transportation is critical to the well being of local, regional, and national economies.
The standard of living in the U.S. is explicitly tied to our ability to efficiently and economically transport freight.
The passage of the SEA-21 initiative will ensure a secure vibrant ocean seaport and inland waterway system that is capable of handling future waterborne freight, traffic growth.
Many high volume container shippers such as retailers, wholesalers, distributors, and agricultural co-ops often restrict receipt and delivery of containers to normal daytime business hours. This makes it impractical for marine cargo terminal operators to keep gates open during off hours if usage is low or non-existent. Until current shipper business practices are changed intermodal connectors will continue to be impacted by extreme surges in usage.
Intermodal connectors between ports and along inland transportation corridors such as Interstate 710 in Long Beach, California, and Interstate 95 and other similar corridors are plagued with congestion of crisis proportions and causing serious environmental, safety, and quality of life issues.
Highway planning, funding, and construction cycles often require ten or more years from the identification of the need to completion of construction.
Many local and State elected officials acknowledge that there is an intermodal connector crisis that has been gaining momentum for years. Local elected officials are key participants, tying local communities to MPOs, developing plans to facilitate freight movement through these communities, and the requisite funding to materialize such plans. Local elected officials must actively participate in the process to plan and fund intermodal connectors. To assure optimum solutions, they must pay particular attention to involve representatives from the freight community, including representatives from each mode of freight transportation.
Therefore:
The Marine Transportation System National Advisory Council resolves to pursue development of a strategic plan that provides for the funding of critical intermodal connectors in the reauthorization of TEA 21 to ensure the efficient, safe and environmentally sound intermodal movement of freight and passengers between water and highway systems. MTS stakeholders will be made aware of the critical importance of having their views represented at Metropolitan and Regional Planning Organizations.
Regional MTS organizations will be asked to include in their agenda the importance of being represented at the table when Metropolitan and Regional Planning Organizations develop long-range transportation plans and transportation improvement programs. The MTS must ensure that the local and regional long-range transportation plans and transportation improvement programs assign a high priority to securing funds for planning and construction of critical intermodal connectors.
Gwen Harris-Gale moved that the resolution be adopted and Darrell Bryan seconded. The Acting Chair called for a discussion on the resolution. A discussion ensued concerning certain wording after debate it was decided that the motion should be voted on without any drafting changes. A vote was called for and all were in favor of the resolution and none were opposed.
Matters Out of Order—Approval of Team Minutes
It was noted that the Security, Infrastructure and Research and Development Teams had not offered their meeting minutes for approval. Jean Godwin made a motion that the Security Team’s meeting minutes from its May 13, 2002 and August 5, 2002 meeting be adopted by the MTSNAC; the Infrastructure Team’s June 17, 2002 meeting be adopted by the MTSNAC; and the Research and Development Team’s May 13, 2002 meeting be adopted by the MTSNAC. Ron Achelpohl seconded her motion and a discussion was invited. A vote was taken and all were in favor and none were opposed to adopting the above-mentioned minutes.
SEA-21 Presentation Discussion
The Acting Chair noted that since the MTSNAC has adopted the Infrastructure Team’s SEA-21 funding mechanism paper, it might be beneficial to discuss the SEA-21 Working Group’s background paper for the purpose of adopting that as a Council product as well.
The floor was opened to a discussion of the paper for the benefit of the new Council members who had not had the opportunity to discuss the paper before. It was noted that this presentation was made in New Orleans and that the full Council had discussed it before.
Comments on the paper:
Steve Pfeiffer asked that his comment about the Great Lakes made previously be incorporated into this presentation as well. There was no objection to that request.
A debate ensued concerning issues in the Security presentation within the presentation. Paul Kirchner made a resolution to delete the slide 15 that address credentialing. Darrel Bryan seconded the motion. A discussion was called for. Pat Hall spoke in favor of the statement and indicated that the recent experiences in the State of Florida demonstrated the necessity for one uniform national credential for transportation and longshore workers. A vote was taken and the motion did not pass.
Jonathan Benner called for a resolution to adopt the presentation of the SEA-21 Working Group as a MTSNAC product subject to drafting corrections to make the paper consistent with the previously adopted SEA-21 funding paper. Jim McCarville so moved and Admiral Rufe seconded the motion. Further discussion was invited and after a vote was taken all were in favor and none were opposed.
New Business
Darrell Bryan moved that one last resolution be considered. It stated as follows:
The MTSNAC takes note that the President has proposed and Congress is considering legislation to transfer the Coast Guard to the Department of Homeland Security. The MTSNAC acknowledges that it is proper and necessary for the Coast Guard to undertake security functions as part of homeland defense. However, the Coast Guard is a multi-mission agency with traditional responsibilities in the area of marine safety, law enforcement, search and rescue, aids to navigation, environmental protections, boating safety and fisheries. The MTSNAC urges that these traditional Coast Guard functions which are essential to the Nation’s MTS be preserved and sufficiently funded.
Bill Wanamaker seconded the resolution. The Acting Chair called for a discussion. A vote was taken and all were in favor and none were opposed.
Kim Petersen of the Maritime Security Council invited all to attend the 2002 International Maritime Security Summit Overview on October 29-30, 2002 in Washington, DC. He noted that more information is available at www.maritimesecurity.org.
Charles Kurz requested that the sponsor issue a press release about the new Council members and the progress that the Council is making.
Jonathan Benner remarked on the considerable progress made during the past two days. He thanked the Council for their dedication to the project and their hard work. He also thanked Chair Chuck Raymond and Vice Chair Frank Sims for their hard work in making the Chair and Vice Chair’s jobs look easy when in fact they are very difficult and demanding.
Next meeting: Approximate dates November 12-15 in New York City.
The Acting Chair adjourned the meeting.